Anyone sees a problem with the black biner in the photo?
Bottom line: the BCMC Executive doesn't want to find out whether there is real support for Watersprite or not. It's clear that a club-wide electronic poll could easily be done through our website. Ins...
Let's see...
Proposed question:
"Do you agree with the BCMC spending up to $30,000 to build a cabin at Watersprite Lake? (see info at https://waterspritecabin.ca)"
Possible answers:
1) Yes
2) No
3) Do...
Peter, on May 4 our Webmaster wrote on the Forum (here) "The website has a Polling module that could be used for a specific question with each member allowed one response." The capability of polling o...
Thanks Silvertip. I wish a hut decision was as trivial and inconsequential as choosing a hall paint colour...
Peter,
It's a lot easier and more accurate to do a poll of the whole club on a question rather than trying to figure out whether a social meeting is representative of the whole club or not. In either...
Hey Mark, I think that cross-country style mountain biking is well suited to the BCMC in contrast to freestyle or downhill. I'd say go for it!
Bill, this is 2016... we don't need to run the club the same way it was done 100 years ago. Electronic polls and on-line consultation are becoming commonplace. Having a club-wide electronic poll on di...
Win, the reason that you don't understand the concerns brought up is that you're not listening. You're busy trying to sell us on your views and conclusions. I understand your view but disagree. In the...
Bill, you look young for your age!
If this 700+ people ship has sailed with 48 people on board and 1/3 of the club's money, then no matter what math you use, I am also embarrassed for the club and deeply ashamed of the travesty. This d...
Win, why is everyone so scared of a club-wide poll? I maintain that the BOD is in violation of the club's policy 22.
Many rules and laws in the world are up to interpretation, which doesn't make them...
Win,
the BOD is in breach of Policy 22.3 and 22.4 with only 48 members supporting the Project.
Directors are obligated to follow all laws (including the Societies Act), by-laws, rules, regulations and...
Glenn,
A few corrections:
- The Societies Act does in fact allow voting by proxy (Section 63); However the BCMC Bylaws don't allow.
- The Societies Act is silent on voting by mail or electronic means....
Win, good start. I'll be interested in adding to your list when the BOD puts in place an effort to make improvements. But first we need a legitimate mandate to build that hut. The BOD ignoring club po...
Ben, the BCMC website already supports putting a 1 question survey to members... Not hard to do.
I agree with Stas, and there is more:
- I'm the one who did the 2014 hut survey and was criticized at the time of throwing oil on the fire! I refused to end the survey after 1 month as we only had a 1...
Paul, let's be clear, all I am asking is that the club spends its money on projects approved by a broad spectrum of the club, as per the Club Policy. This could still easily be done.
The responsibilit...
Win, You said that you think that we have learned much from this process. So I'm asking what do you think that we learned? Fair question, no?
As for your question what process would you feel satisfied...
Why can't we have BOTH a club-wide electronic poll AND the GM vote (already held Jan 12) to arrive at a justifiable decision? That way the constitution is respected plus we actually get to find out wh...
over 80% of new BCMC members do NOT renew their membership (and I seriously doubt it's because they couldn't vote).
Paul, do we know why we can't retain more new members? 20% retention rate seems...
Win, what do you think we have learned?
Maybe we need some guidelines for marketing as well ;-)
Focus efforts on trips and courses. Then you have a sellable product. It's not hard to sell the BCMC when you have a good trip list.
The q...
Come on Francis. You're a past president and you know how voting works. It's clearly spelled out in section 5.7 of the clubs constitution here: https://bcmc.ca/bcmc/constitution/BCMC_constitution_a...
Francis, I would very much like your statement "In the end, the issue isn't likely whether we build the hut or not but how we arrived at a decision." to be true. I suggest instead of repeatedly p...